Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
dédudgeonnage
English translation:
coming loose
Nov 15, 2007 14:22
16 yrs ago
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French term
dédudgeonnage
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Nuclear Eng/Sci
corrosion resistance
L’alliage 800 présente par contre un coefficient de dilatation plus élevé, dont la principale conséquence est un risque plus important de dédudgeonnage des tubes périphériques
As far as I am aware, 'dudgeonnage' is 'expansion', so is dedudgeonnage shrinkage? Can't find it anywhere...
As far as I am aware, 'dudgeonnage' is 'expansion', so is dedudgeonnage shrinkage? Can't find it anywhere...
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coming loose
I think "dudgeonnage" refers to a sort of "shrink fitting" of tubes into manifolds. What we are probably talking about here is not so much the phenomenon of "shrinkage" but rather the effect differing thermal expansion coefficients have in causing the connection to become loose.
Now, how would you translate "désolidarisation"?
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http://www.mausitalia.it/products.asp?lang=fra&id=251
http://www.mausitalia.it/products.asp?lang=eng&id=251
Le dudgeonnage mécanique du bouchon est l'opération qui rattrape le jeu initial entre bouchon et plaque tubu- laire et qui écrase ce dernier contre la plaque pour le maintenir en place
www.code-aster.org/documents/fiches_etudes_ae/AE_37_2.pdf
Looks as if "dudgeonnage", in this context at least, is "swaging" in English. I'll let you Google it if you need more.
For "dédudgeonnage", you might get away with "unswaging". "Unswaged" gets quite a few ghits, but I think it generally means "not yet swaged", as opposed to "deswaged" (no ghits) or "previously swaged, but no longer a tight fit".
Now, how would you translate "désolidarisation"?
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Note added at 9 hrs (2007-11-15 23:57:18 GMT) Post-grading
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http://www.mausitalia.it/products.asp?lang=fra&id=251
http://www.mausitalia.it/products.asp?lang=eng&id=251
Le dudgeonnage mécanique du bouchon est l'opération qui rattrape le jeu initial entre bouchon et plaque tubu- laire et qui écrase ce dernier contre la plaque pour le maintenir en place
www.code-aster.org/documents/fiches_etudes_ae/AE_37_2.pdf
Looks as if "dudgeonnage", in this context at least, is "swaging" in English. I'll let you Google it if you need more.
For "dédudgeonnage", you might get away with "unswaging". "Unswaged" gets quite a few ghits, but I think it generally means "not yet swaged", as opposed to "deswaged" (no ghits) or "previously swaged, but no longer a tight fit".
Note from asker:
| Re désolidarisation, I'd try 'separation' |
| Christian, what do you mean exactly? |
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Comment: "Yes, I do agree that this comes the closest to what they seem to be describing. Better than shrinkage, which isn't quite right here. Thanks alot! "
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expanding
Ref. Termium:
Domaine(s)
– Boring (Machine-Tooling)
Domaine(s)
– Alésage (Usinage)
expanding Source CORRECT,
GÉNÉRIQUE
dudgeonnage Source CORRECT,
SPÉCIFIQUE
DEF – A process used to increase
the inside diameter of a hollow piece,
such as a tube, cup or shell. Source
CONT – Le dudgeonnage est une
opération qui consiste à immobiliser
un tube dans l'alésage d'une plaque
par expansion mécanique à froid.
Source
OBS – On parle aussi de
"dudgeonner" (verbe), "dudgeonné"
(adj.), et "dudgeon" (outil servant au
dudgeonnage). Source
Domaine(s)
– Boring (Machine-Tooling)
Domaine(s)
– Alésage (Usinage)
expanding Source CORRECT,
GÉNÉRIQUE
dudgeonnage Source CORRECT,
SPÉCIFIQUE
DEF – A process used to increase
the inside diameter of a hollow piece,
such as a tube, cup or shell. Source
CONT – Le dudgeonnage est une
opération qui consiste à immobiliser
un tube dans l'alésage d'une plaque
par expansion mécanique à froid.
Source
OBS – On parle aussi de
"dudgeonner" (verbe), "dudgeonné"
(adj.), et "dudgeon" (outil servant au
dudgeonnage). Source
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
David Goward
: The query is "DÉdudgeonnage".
1 hr
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| disagree |
christian landais
: It takes a mandrel to "roll" a tube into a tube sheet or plate
19 hrs
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1 hr
probablement shrinkage selon le procédé, mais ce doit être du jargon d'entreprise..
le mieux c'est de demander si vous avez un contact technique client...
good luck
good luck
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
christian landais
: this probablement what it does physically...shrinkage seems too large to me
17 hrs
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2 hrs
Claire Cox
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
French & German Technical Translations
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, German to English
Related KudoZ points
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135
unrolling
Having said I couldn't find this term, I then came across it in the AFNOR nuclear glossary. As well as expansion, it also gives "rolling" with specific reference to tubes. I wonder therefore whether dédududgeonnage could be unrolling, i.e. as the alloy expands, the tubes start to unroll.
Just a thought...
Just a thought...
Note from asker:
| Yes Claire, I too have the AFNOR glossary definition for dudgeonnage. But I note that dedudgeonnage does not appear. Rolling is not applicable in this particular context. |
18 hrs
christian landais
France
France
Native in English
Specializes in field
France
poor sources do not help smart targets
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: French to English, English to French
Related KudoZ points
:
8
impairs the rolling interference fit
"coming loose" as suggested would turn into a real disaster. When fitting a tube into a hole in a tube plate (e.g. when manufacturing a tube exchanger) you don't want to weld it into the tube plate because the welding arc heat input will modify the metallographic intercrystalline structure of the tube/plate metal (which is a real mess with a nuclear steam generator). Therefore, the tube is fitted into the plate and secured in position therein by a mechanical "rolling" process taking place from INSIDE the tube whose wall will consequently expand against the tube plate internal dia.!!! dudgeon is also known as "tube expander" (the "dudgeoning tool" itself)...
Example sentence:
wiki is sometimes weaky
19 hrs
christian landais
France
France
Native in English
Specializes in field
France
poor sources do not help smart targets
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: French to English, English to French
Related KudoZ points
:
8
impairs the rolling interference fit
"coming loose" as suggested would turn into a real disaster. When fitting a tube into a hole in a tube plate (e.g. when manufacturing a tube exchanger) you don't want to weld it into the tube plate because the welding arc heat input will modify the metallographic intercrystalline structure of the tube/plate metal (which is a real mess with a nuclear steam generator). Therefore, the tube is fitted into the plate and secured in position therein by a mechanical "rolling" process taking place from INSIDE the tube whose wall will consequently expand against the tube plate internal dia.!!! dudgeon is also known as "tube expander" (the "dudgeoning tool" itself)...
Example sentence:
wiki's so weaky at times
20 hrs
christian landais
France
France
Native in English
Specializes in field
France
poor sources do not help smart targets
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: French to English, English to French
Related KudoZ points
:
8
impairs the rolling interference fit
"coming loose" as suggested would turn into a real disaster. When fitting a tube into a hole in a tube plate (e.g. when manufacturing a tube exchanger) you don't want to weld it into the tube plate because the welding arc heat input will modify the metallographic intercrystalline structure of the tube/plate metal (which is a real mess with a nuclear steam generator). Therefore, the tube is fitted into the plate and secured in position therein by a mechanical "rolling" process taking place from INSIDE the tube whose wall will consequently expand against the tube plate internal dia.!!! dudgeon is also known as "tube expander" (the "dudgeoning tool" itself)...
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