Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dutch term or phrase:
leveringshandeling
English translation:
act of delivery
Added to glossary by
Arsen Nazarian
May 26, 2005 08:54
19 yrs ago
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Dutch term
United Kingdom
satisfaction guaranteed
Native in: English
Works in: Dutch to English, Flemish to English, French to English
leveringshandeling
Dutch to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
concerns transfer of shares
De voor de wet vereiste samengestelde leveringshandelingen, te weten (i) rechtshandeling strekkende tot overdracht ...
Zolang niet het vereiste, hiervoor weergegeven samenstel van leveringshandelingen voor een overdracht heeft plaatsgevonden,
What is the difference between "levering" and "overdracht"?
De voor de wet vereiste samengestelde leveringshandelingen, te weten (i) rechtshandeling strekkende tot overdracht ...
Zolang niet het vereiste, hiervoor weergegeven samenstel van leveringshandelingen voor een overdracht heeft plaatsgevonden,
What is the difference between "levering" and "overdracht"?
Proposed translations
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| 4 +2 | act of delivery |
Arsen Nazarian
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| 4 +1 | transfer |
jarry (X)
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Change log
May 26, 2005 09:25: writeaway changed "Field" from "Law/Patents" to "Bus/Financial"
May 26, 2005 20:59: Deborah do Carmo changed "Field" from "Bus/Financial" to "Law/Patents"
Proposed translations
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Arsen Nazarian
Netherlands
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Specializes in field
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"Three decades in law and humanities"
Native in: Persian (Farsi) 
, Armenian
Works in: English to Persian (Farsi), English to Armenian, Dutch to Persian (Farsi), and 3 more.
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act of delivery
As the text makes clear, a number of acts of delivery will make a transfer complete.
As long as the required combination of acts of delivery for a transfer, as described, have not been performed ...
As long as the required combination of acts of delivery for a transfer, as described, have not been performed ...
Peer comment(s):
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Marjon van den Bosch
: act of delivery (Kramer's Business Woordenboek); overdracht is transfer or conveyance of something (or: carry-ver in bookeeping)
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Yes, overdracht can consist of a number of (physical) acts of delivery which, when completed, will form the "rechtshandeling", the transfer. At least, this is what the text tries to make clear imho.
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Deborah do Carmo
: this is definitely a legal question - only act(s) of delivery PLUS an intention to transfer can constitiute a transfer of title in law
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Thanks Deborah. Yes, especially for: " ... de voor de wet vereiste samengestelde leveringshandelingen..."
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transfer
As`far as I know, levering and overdracht are one and the same thing in English. The concept of "rechtshandeling", too, is a very nebulous one in English law, and South African law for that matter. It is best left untranslated
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Note added at 6 hrs 8 mins (2005-05-26 15:02:30 GMT)
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Fockema Andreae\'s Juridisch Woordenboek defines \"Rechtshandeling\" as \"handeling verricht met de bedoeling bepaalde rechtgevolgen in het leven te roepen. Worden geen rechtsgevolgen beoogd dan worden die handelingen als andere handelingen geclassificeerd.\" Rechtshandelingen kunnen eenzijdig zijn. The most common used translation is \'juristic act\'.
This term, Black Law\'s Dictionary defines as \'One designed to have a legal effect, and capable thereof. An act of a private individual directed to the origin, termination or alteration of a right\'.
My point is that all of these aspects are already inherent in the concept of \'transfer\' or \'delivery\'. It is one of those words which does not add anything to the translation or to the information conveyed to the reader of the translated English-language text.
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Note added at 23 hrs 3 mins (2005-05-27 07:57:20 GMT)
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In the Netherlands and other continental European countries, there is no physical delivery of shares (share certificates). Transfer is effected by the \"Centrum voor Fondsen Administratie BV.\" Delivery and transfer have therefore been combined into a single operation. Obviously, shares (share certificates) can be passed on to third parties without actually transferring them, such as for safekeeping or for purposes of collateral security. But that is a not what we are dealing with here.
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Note added at 6 hrs 8 mins (2005-05-26 15:02:30 GMT)
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Fockema Andreae\'s Juridisch Woordenboek defines \"Rechtshandeling\" as \"handeling verricht met de bedoeling bepaalde rechtgevolgen in het leven te roepen. Worden geen rechtsgevolgen beoogd dan worden die handelingen als andere handelingen geclassificeerd.\" Rechtshandelingen kunnen eenzijdig zijn. The most common used translation is \'juristic act\'.
This term, Black Law\'s Dictionary defines as \'One designed to have a legal effect, and capable thereof. An act of a private individual directed to the origin, termination or alteration of a right\'.
My point is that all of these aspects are already inherent in the concept of \'transfer\' or \'delivery\'. It is one of those words which does not add anything to the translation or to the information conveyed to the reader of the translated English-language text.
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Note added at 23 hrs 3 mins (2005-05-27 07:57:20 GMT)
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In the Netherlands and other continental European countries, there is no physical delivery of shares (share certificates). Transfer is effected by the \"Centrum voor Fondsen Administratie BV.\" Delivery and transfer have therefore been combined into a single operation. Obviously, shares (share certificates) can be passed on to third parties without actually transferring them, such as for safekeeping or for purposes of collateral security. But that is a not what we are dealing with here.
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: could rechtshandeling be slipped in just as legal transaction?/thanks Jarry-I saw juristic act, but of course that would seem pretty much out of place here. so your recommendation is to drop it?
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Thanks. See more info above. Yes, absolutely. It would merely puzzle the average English-speaking reader and make lawyers/barristers, etc. run to their libraries.
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Deborah do Carmo
: in law delivery and transfer are different concepts - delivery per se does not lead to a transfer, it has to be accompanied by an intention to transfer title to something .//I know but delivery in law doesn't have to be physical + is not same as transfer
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See my comment on the procedure in use in the Netherlands and other continental European countries..
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