Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

hide recording

Serbian translation:

zapis o mestu skrivanja

Added to glossary by Bogdan Petrovic
Aug 28, 2021 06:55
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English term

hide recording

English to Serbian Other Military / Defense Police - police dog train
ADR Carriage of Explosives and Hide Details (This should be printed two sided and filed for hide recording purposes)

Nejasna formulacija. Ovo je dodatak nekom dokumentu u obliku aneksa, nikakvih objašnjenja nema (radi se o nekom priručniku). Nije jasno ni ovo "Hide details" ni objašnjenje u zagradi)

Discussion

Daryo Aug 28, 2021:
Yes, but ... hunting dogs usually go nowhere near any explosives.

Here is the context - these are police dogs, they don't hunt foxes but look for explosives:

ACPO Police Dogs Manual of Guidance 2011
Version 1.1

https://manualzz.com/download/9616213

see page 336.

internal name of the document:

Police Dog Manual of Guidance 2011 v1 1 FOI Version Unrestricted_March 2011V 1.1

"FOI Version Unrestricted" = the publicly available part of the document - some parts are missing

FOI = freedom of information https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-freedom-of-inf...
Vuka Mijuskovic Aug 28, 2021:
ADR je standard za transport opasnih materija, a hide se na srpskom kaže čeka u kontekstu lova. To bi onda značilo da se 'hide specification' odnosi na karakteristike prostora za skladištenje.

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zapis o mestu skrivanja

... u svrhu zapisa o mestu skrivanja eksploziva/mete (tokom obuke).

hide recording - recording of location(s) where the target (in this case not including interferents) was hidden throughout the training.

In each search area hide locations remained the same for the first four dogs in the group that conducted the search… scorers were also required to record whether each hide was searched…
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016815911...
(2.12. Search set-up)

Peer comment(s):

agree Daryo : I can only agree, never mind that it looks very much like my own answer.
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записник о скривању (експлозива у циљу обуке пса)

see

ACPO Police Dogs Manual of Guidance 2011
Version 1.1

https://manualzz.com/download/9616213 p. 336


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in

ADR Carriage of Explosives and Hide Details (This should be printed two sided and filed for hide recording purposes)

there are TWO connected but DISTINCT parts.

Both parts are about explosives used for training search dogs - that's THE ONLY connection between the two parts.

"ADR Carriage of Explosives" is about transporting explosives from the storage to the training location and back, i.e. producing the required "paper trail" about moving these explosives:

"Hide Details" are details about how these explosives where used for training the dog(s) - where each explosive was hidden and what of type it was. Different explosives were hidden at different places to see if the dog is capable of finding them.

see the table https://manualzz.com/download/9616213 p. 336

and the preceding text.





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1.105. Dog
1.105. 1. Overall Working Ability
1.105. 2. Stamina
1.105. 3. Age and Condition
1.105. 4. Responsiveness and Control
1.105. 5. The Ability to concentrate in varied environmental situations and dismiss
reasonable distractions
1.105. 6. To dismiss human / animal disturbance
1.105. 7. To negotiate obstacles and operational features
1.105. 8. To safely indicate the presence of explosives in varied practical hides
1.105. 9. An ability to work both on and off the leash / harness
The searches will be in practical, live venues with realistic timescales replicating operational
deployments. This does not restrict the assessor from ensuring that the ESDDT can find a
hide early in a search exercise
or to be able to identify a negative search.

1.106. The substances used will include NG and bulk amounts. The hides will be as realistic as
possible and should include variations of the following:
1.106. 1. Height – 1 to 1.5 metres
1.106. 2. Buried – just below surface
1.106. 3. Contained – bag / suitcase
1.106. 4. Wrapped – plastic / Clingfilm


1.107. These factors will ensure the dog’s ability to identify differing scent signatures and the
handler’s ability to act on the dogs reactions. The use of pertinent, practical and progressive
hides
will ensure the teams readiness for operational duties and continued future
development.

same document https://manualzz.com/download/9616213 p 297

ESDDT = Explosive Search Dog Detection Team


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more details about these "hides" on the previous page (p. 335)




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дужа варијанта:

"записник о скривању експлозива - врста експлозива и место скривања"

овде су у питању експлозиви које је полиција намерно сакрила ради обуке паса (списак врсте експлозива и локација где су били сакривени);

овај списак ("Hide Details") нема никакве везе са експлозивима пронађеним у нечијем коферу или у неком контејнеру пуном робе које је неко "заборавио да пријави" - у питању је обука, не претрага "за стварно".
Peer comment(s):

disagree Milan Nesic : I somewhat (thus, switching to "neutral") changed my mind after a more thorough examination of the document.
4 hrs
fair enough - but then remove the disagree?
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1 day 21 hrs

popis postavljenih predmeta/tragova

"Prije postavljanja traga vodič (= postavljač traga) mora da sudiji ili licu zaduženom za trag pokaže predmete. Samo se dobro namirisani predmeti (najmanje 30 minuta stari i namirisani od vodiča) mogu koristiti. Vodič (= postavljač traga) se kratko zadržava na „licu mesta" i onda nastavlja normalnim korakom u smjeru koji je sudija propisao. Krivine se isto tako prave normalnim korakom. Prvi predmet se stavlja na trag poslije minimum 100 koraka na prvu ili drugu liniju. Drugi predmet se postavlja na kraju poslednje linije. Predmet se na tragu postavljaju dok je postavljač traga u pokretu. Pošto je postavio poslednji predmet na kraju poslednje linije, postavljač traga mora da nastavi svoje kretanje pravo još nekoliko koraka. Na istom tragu koriste se različiti tipovi predmeta (materijali: koža, tkanina, drvo). Predmeti moraju imati dimenzije od oko 10 cm dužine, 2-3 cm širine i 0.5-1 cm debljine. Njihova boja se ne smije isticati u odnosu na teren. U toku postavljanja traga, pas mora biti van vidokruga."

Pravilnik o radu službenih pasa KSRS - Kinološki savez Republike Srpske, Pravilnik FCI-a o međunarodnim ispitima radnih pasa i međunarodnim ispitima pasa tragača, (Prevod na srpski), str. 15.

"Recording hides in note book and check off when they are removed and to where and by watching hides to prevent them from being stolen."

K9 unit Force Procedure Manual, Included is the Policy and Procedure Manual, Administrative Duties Manual, and SOP’s, Confidential, Version 4.4, Commander K9 Units, Specialised Unites Department.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Daryo : a very relevant reference (more than your deleted answer) but not convinced about "popis"
3 days 18 hrs
Thank you for referring to the pertinent document.
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