Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Jul 7, 2002 14:22
21 yrs ago
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Deutsch term
roh-bau
Non-PRO
Deutsch > Englisch
Technik
Bauwesen/Hochbau/Tiefbau
building
a phase in building houses
Proposed translations
(Englisch)
| 4 | carcase, carcass |
Johannes Gleim
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| 4 +8 | shell, carcass, carcase |
pschmitt
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| 4 +4 | building shell |
Elvira Stoianov
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| 4 +1 | outer walls |
gangels (X)
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| 4 +1 | framing |
Dr. Fred Thomson
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| 4 -1 | building's skeleton |
Terri Doerrzapf
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| 1 +1 | construction shell, carcass, shell, or external structure |
Dan McCrosky (X)
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Proposed translations
2 Stunden
Johannes Gleim
Native in Deutsch
Works in field
40 years Engineer, 20 years translations
Native in: Deutsch
Works in: Englisch > Deutsch, Deutsch > Englisch, Französisch > Deutsch, and 6 more.
Related KudoZ points
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322
Selected
carcase, carcass
Einzige in Frage kommenden Antworten sind die von Elvira und PSchmidt:
Rohbau (Bauart) = bare brick work
Rohbau (Gebäude) = shell, carcase, carcass
Begriffe wurden auch rückwärts geprüft. Siehe dazu meine Kommentare zu den bisherigen Übersetzungsvorschlägen
Rohbau (Bauart) = bare brick work
Rohbau (Gebäude) = shell, carcase, carcass
Begriffe wurden auch rückwärts geprüft. Siehe dazu meine Kommentare zu den bisherigen Übersetzungsvorschlägen
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks very much for your answer and explanation, as also to all other comments. "
+8
3 Min.
shell, carcass, carcase
Also:
bare masonry and carpentry, shell construction.
Hope this helps
bare masonry and carpentry, shell construction.
Hope this helps
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Mats Wiman
22 Min.
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| agree |
Alan Johnson
: I have used shell construction in the past
33 Min.
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| agree |
Johannes Gleim
: carcase, carcass supported by Dictionary of Building
2 Stunden
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| agree |
Terri Doerrzapf
: "carcase" also in DUDEN Bildwörterbuch for building site
3 Stunden
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| agree |
Olaf
14 Stunden
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| agree |
conny
: some of my customers prefer 'carcass', others 'shell'
18 Stunden
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| agree |
Сергей Лузан
22 Stunden
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| agree |
Steffen Walter
: shell
1 Tag 19 Stunden
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+4
3 Min.
Elvira Stoianov
Luxemburg
Luxemburg
Luxemburg
Currently employed in-house
Native in: Rumänisch 
, Ungarisch
Works in: Deutsch > Rumänisch, Englisch > Rumänisch, Rumänisch > Deutsch, and 4 more.
Related KudoZ points
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15
building shell
according to QuickDic and LEO
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Note added at 2002-07-07 14:27:29 (GMT)
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or \"bare brickwork\", carcass, fabric are other variants of LEO
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Note added at 2002-07-07 14:27:29 (GMT)
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or \"bare brickwork\", carcass, fabric are other variants of LEO
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Mats Wiman
: bare brickwork supported by Ernst
22 Min.
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| agree |
stefana
36 Min.
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| neutral |
Johannes Gleim
: building shell not supported, fabric supported by Building Dict. (fabric = Rohbau + Fenster, Türen, Dach, Verkleidung)
2 Stunden
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| agree |
Kim Metzger
: I don't much care if JG's building dico supports this good solution.
4 Stunden
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that's very nice of you
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| agree |
Steffen Walter
1 Tag 19 Stunden
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+1
12 Min.
construction shell, carcass, shell, or external structure
Here are some previous KudoZ questions on this subject:
http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&eid_c=411&id=57073&keyword=rohbau
http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&eid_c=411&id=32861&keyword=rohbau
http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&eid_c=411&id=32861&keyword=rohbau
Some of the suggestions are not so good and there are regional differences, but construction shell, carcass, shell, or external structure would all be clear and understandable.
HTH
Dan
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Note added at 2002-07-07 21:01:30 (GMT)
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Although all of the terms I have suggested are used in different parts of the English-speaking world, \"shell\" seems to be by far the most popular for both .com and .uk sites. Google searches yield the following results:
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carcass construction building site:.com - >3,500 hits
shell construction building site:.com - >100,000 hits
carcase construction building site:.com - >250 hits
\"external structure\" construction building site:.com – >200 hits
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carcass construction building site:.uk - >400 hits
shell construction building site:.uk - >10,000 hits
carcase construction building site:.uk - >100 hits
\"external structure\" construction building site:.uk – >110 hits
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If you are writing for worldwide consumption, \"shell\" would appear to be the safest choice. There are no spelling problems and most dictionaries as well as several of the other suggestion contributors also confirm \"shell\".
http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&eid_c=411&id=57073&keyword=rohbau
http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&eid_c=411&id=32861&keyword=rohbau
http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&eid_c=411&id=32861&keyword=rohbau
Some of the suggestions are not so good and there are regional differences, but construction shell, carcass, shell, or external structure would all be clear and understandable.
HTH
Dan
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Note added at 2002-07-07 21:01:30 (GMT)
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Although all of the terms I have suggested are used in different parts of the English-speaking world, \"shell\" seems to be by far the most popular for both .com and .uk sites. Google searches yield the following results:
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carcass construction building site:.com - >3,500 hits
shell construction building site:.com - >100,000 hits
carcase construction building site:.com - >250 hits
\"external structure\" construction building site:.com – >200 hits
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carcass construction building site:.uk - >400 hits
shell construction building site:.uk - >10,000 hits
carcase construction building site:.uk - >100 hits
\"external structure\" construction building site:.uk – >110 hits
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If you are writing for worldwide consumption, \"shell\" would appear to be the safest choice. There are no spelling problems and most dictionaries as well as several of the other suggestion contributors also confirm \"shell\".
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Johannes Gleim
: construction shell & external structure not supported by Building Dict., Kucera or Ernst
2 Stunden
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Please see my note above.
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| agree |
Kim Metzger
: Ernst and Kucera need to consult some native-speaking experts.
4 Stunden
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Thank you, please see my note above.
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| agree |
Steffen Walter
: yes, go for shell
1 Tag 19 Stunden
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-1
22 Min.
Terri Doerrzapf
Vereinigte Staaten
Vereinigte Staaten
Native in Englisch
Vereinigte Staaten
Medical and Legal Translation Services
Native in: Englisch 
Works in: Deutsch > Englisch, Englisch
Related KudoZ points
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4
building's skeleton
found it in google under architecture.
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Note added at 2002-07-07 14:51:34 (GMT)
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building frame
could also work
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Note added at 2002-07-07 14:51:34 (GMT)
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building frame
could also work
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Johannes Gleim
: skeleton ist Gerüst, Skelett, Fachwerk
2 Stunden
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agree with Johannes, skeleton does not include the actual walls.
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+1
35 Min.
outer walls
or outer structure in US.
Shell is usually referred to when it concerns a burnt-out building
Shell is usually referred to when it concerns a burnt-out building
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Johannes Gleim
: outer wall = Außenmauer (Ernst), outer structure not supported by Ernst, Kucera or Building Dict.
1 Stunde
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+1
38 Min.
Dr. Fred Thomson
Vereinigte Staaten
Vereinigte Staaten
Native in Englisch
Vereinigte Staaten
A lawyer, technician, nuclear power optr
Native in: Englisch
Works in: Deutsch > Englisch
Related KudoZ points
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195
framing
The frame is set up and then the additiona phases begin.
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Johannes Gleim
: framing = Umrahmung, Gebälk, Balkenwerk, Gerüst, Zimmerwerk laut Ernst, Kucera und Building Dict.
1 Stunde
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| agree |
Kim Metzger
: Absolutely, if it's US construction. We build with wooden studs and the initial stage is the framing.
2 Stunden
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| agree |
gangels (X)
: Agree for woodwork, but not concrete. If fancy, you can say structural support elements, according to friend in the business
17 Stunden
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