déterminantes de la volonté de contracter

11:17 Apr 19, 2024
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French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s)
French term or phrase: déterminantes de la volonté de contracter
This is from a contract between two parties whereby XXX provides a service to the other party:


Les stipulations du présent article sont déterminantes de la volonté de contracter de XXX, les prix du Service ayant été définis en fonction des exclusions et limitations de responsabilité prévues au Contrat.
AllegroTrans
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Local time: 16:05


Summary of answers provided
3categoric/al evidence of the intention to contract (enter into contractual legal relations)
Adrian MM.
3manifest/are demonstrative of XXX’s willingness to enter into a contractual agreement
SafeTex
3XXX is relying upon the provisions/stipulations herein contained in entering into this agreement
Joshua Parker
3determining for the (or "party X's") willingness to contract
Mpoma
3conclusive of wilful intention
Lisa Rosengard
3 -1(the terms contained in this Article) will determine xxx's decision to enter the Agreement
ormiston
3 -1... define the rationale for this agreement / define the essence of this agreement
Daryo


Discussion entries: 9





  

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categoric/al evidence of the intention to contract (enter into contractual legal relations)


Explanation:
Gremlins in the system have stopped me - all afternoon GMT or CET - posting an answer.

In Eglish contract law, the idea would be stipulations (disliked by some translators & interpreters as well as company and agency PMs & directors, but absolutely legit: e.g. intermediate stipulation aka innnoiminate terms) inexorably pointing to an Intent/ion to Create Legal Relations.

Example sentence(s):
  • Intention to Create Legal Relations refers to the requirement for a legally binding and enforceable agreement between parties.
  • Evidence of Legal Intent: The parties must provide clear, objective evidence that they intended for the agreement to be legally binding.

    Reference: http://www.claims.co.uk/knowledge-base/contract-law/legal-in...
Adrian MM.
Austria
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Notes to answerer
Asker: thanks, but surely the intention to contract comes from a desire to do business/make money? I was actually wondering if the Fr term means something like "the stipulations of the contract are of the essence"

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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
manifest/are demonstrative of XXX’s willingness to enter into a contractual agreement


Explanation:
Something like this perhaps.

SafeTex
France
Local time: 17:05
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 52

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Andrew Bramhall
22 mins
  -> Thanks

disagree  Daryo: Wrong "nuance" - the "willingness" has been demonstrated by the simple fact that the contract has been agreed, not by the content of this article.
3 days 2 hrs
  -> That's it Daryo. Disagree with other reasonable answers and put up your own suggestion that is clearly wrong.
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1 day 5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
XXX is relying upon the provisions/stipulations herein contained in entering into this agreement


Explanation:
Not sure that would be the exact way I'd end up phrasing it, but this would be my reading.
Essentially, it's saying XXX is relying upon (basing his/her decision on) the provisions/stipulations contained in the agreement, as it is the scope of the agreement/contract (i.e. the exclusions and limitations of liability...) that have led the service provider to set the corresponding fees (les prix du service...).
I've seen this as a "reliance" clause in US contract law (GB may be different).


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/reliance
Joshua Parker
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1 day 19 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
(the terms contained in this Article) will determine xxx's decision to enter the Agreement


Explanation:
Going by your own interpretation, this does seem logical

ormiston
Local time: 17:05
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Daryo: Time travel? This agreement is already signed, so it can not include conditions for a possible future signing.
1 day 16 hrs
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3 days 12 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
... sont déterminantes de la volonté de contracter
... define the rationale for this agreement / define the essence of this agreement


Explanation:
OR

define the intentions of the contractual parties

IOW without these stipulations, there is no longer any agreement.

Possibly "are of the essence" by analogy with "time is of the essence"?


Les stipulations du présent article sont déterminantes de la volonté de contracter de XXX
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Les stipulations du présent article ... déterminent / définissent quelle était la raison essentielle pour laquelle ce contrat a été conclu (ce que voulait une des / les parties au contract)

CL5 about the meaning, OTOH there might be a better formulation.

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Note added at 3 days 13 hrs (2024-04-23 00:26:40 GMT)
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https://www.lawinsider.com/clause/essence-of-the-agreement


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Note added at 3 days 13 hrs (2024-04-23 00:30:38 GMT)
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What Is an Essence of Contract?

Mary McMahon
Last Modified Date: March 05, 2024
An essence of contract is the key condition on which a contract is based. Violation of this condition is grounds for rescission, where the other party can break the contract without penalty because it has already been breached. It is also possible to sue for damages when the essence of contract is not respected. This differs from a warranty, a clause in a contract that doesn’t change the material meaning so substantially that the other party can withdraw if it is broken.

https://www.mylawquestions.com/what-is-an-essence-of-contrac...



Daryo
United Kingdom
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  SafeTex: Stipulations in an agreement are just that and do not define their own rationale, plus the fact that you've completely missed the idea of "willingness".
10 hrs
  -> You have completely missed what is the key point of the whole clause - you're arguing about right or wrong trees while being lost in the wrong forest.
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5 days   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
determining for the (or "party X's") willingness to contract


Explanation:
I have come across this word déterminant in this sort of clause many times... it simply means that "without X we would not have signed the contract". In other words it's referring to aspects of the contract which are considered to be essential by the party in question.

The closest answer to mine is Ormiston's... in a way his use of future tense is correct: this sort of formula is always included in a contract before the contract is signed. It is emphasising that the signature given below would not have been given without X.

Mpoma
United Kingdom
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conclusive of wilful intention


Explanation:
The provisions of the article are conclusive of XX's wilful intention with respect to the defined service charges or costs, based on the exclusions and limitations provided for or stipulated in the contract.

Explanations:
Statutory provisions and regulations in a contract:
"In a legal contract, a provision is typically a dedicated section within a legal document of law that describes or specifies an action or condition. Essentially a provision outlines what must happen or be done, or conversely, what must not happen or be done."
"A contract provision is a stipulation within a contract, legal document or a law. Often it requires action by a specific date or a within a specified period of time. Those provisions are intended to protect the interests of one or both parties."
"Contract provisions refer to the requirements of a contract, found in the terms and clauses that constitute a contract."

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Note added at 9 hrs (2024-04-19 21:17:40 GMT)
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wilful = deliberate, voluntary or intentional



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Note added at 7 days (2024-04-26 17:05:46 GMT)
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'The stipulations of the present article are determinant of the intentions of the client's contractor or business agent, the service charges or expenses having been explained, based on the exclusions and limitation in the contract for which client x is liable.


    Reference: http://https://weagree.com/weblog/articles-sections-or-claus...
    Reference: http://https://www.lawdistrict.com/legal-dictionary/provisio...
Lisa Rosengard
United Kingdom
Local time: 16:05
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: No Lisa, there is nothing "wilful" in this contract - that simply doesn't make sense


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  SafeTex: willingness is not wilfulness
47 mins
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