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Jonathan Zylberstein
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Oct 14, 2012

Yes, so I've quite recently started with subtitling. Series, to be precise. As we all probably know, a good subtitler should know what kind of references work well in your market, and which ones do not. Sometimes, these references might be, for instance, songs that are sung for whatever reason. These very same songs do not always work well in your own source language, but surely you want to emulate these kinds of references now and then yourself to make your translation look neat!

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Yes, so I've quite recently started with subtitling. Series, to be precise. As we all probably know, a good subtitler should know what kind of references work well in your market, and which ones do not. Sometimes, these references might be, for instance, songs that are sung for whatever reason. These very same songs do not always work well in your own source language, but surely you want to emulate these kinds of references now and then yourself to make your translation look neat!

This brings me to my question. Where do I, as a subtitling sole trader, stand on this? Am I allowed to enter a line or two from those famous songs in my childhood in my subtitles?



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Phil Hand
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Law isn't very clear but it doesn't look good Oct 14, 2012

"the conventional wisdom for fiction authors is not to quote copyrighted song lyrics whatsoever in their work unless they have obtained express permission from the copyright holder."

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"the conventional wisdom for fiction authors is not to quote copyrighted song lyrics whatsoever in their work unless they have obtained express permission from the copyright holder."

http://www.lexisnexis.com/community/copyright-trademarklaw/blogs/publishing/archive/2012/08/13/fair-use-amp-the-quotation-of-song-lyrics-in-fiction.aspx

"SWEDEN
Fair Use or Fair Dealing
No broad statutory limitation of “fair use” or “fair dealing.”"

http://ccarts.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/FairUseandFairDealinginForeignCountries.pdf

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Joakim Braun
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And Oct 15, 2012

Yes, check with a lawyer.
(But... what jurisdiction would be involved in such a case for your subtitling? Perhaps not so easy to answer.)

As for Sweden, I believe very minor portions of copyrighted work may be used in own work that has "verkshöjd". Otherwise collages, for instance, would be impossible.

I'd be extremely surprised if there is Swedish legal precedent that makes it impossible to, say, bring in a couple of words of Astrid Lindgren into the hundreds ... See more
Yes, check with a lawyer.
(But... what jurisdiction would be involved in such a case for your subtitling? Perhaps not so easy to answer.)

As for Sweden, I believe very minor portions of copyrighted work may be used in own work that has "verkshöjd". Otherwise collages, for instance, would be impossible.

I'd be extremely surprised if there is Swedish legal precedent that makes it impossible to, say, bring in a couple of words of Astrid Lindgren into the hundreds of subtitles of a half-hour film.

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