Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Lotsen

English translation:

Pilots

Added to glossary by David Williams
Apr 18, 2017 07:09
7 yrs ago
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German term

Lotsen

German to English Tech/Engineering Transport / Transportation / Shipping Rail infrastructure
Context:

Zugang zu knappen menschlichen Ressourcen wie Lotsen, Signaltechniker oder Sicherungspersonal

In connection with rail networks and infrastructure, so definitely not air traffic controllers. A friend of mine who is a German engine driver explained the term as follows:

Was Lotsen tun: Den Weg zeigen, wenn man sich nicht auskennt. Wenn ich eine Strecke nicht kenne und trotzdem fahren muss, kann mir ein Lotse gestellt werden, der mir Besonderheiten usw. zeigt. Sonst, wenn kein Lotse gestellt werden kann, dann darf ich max 100 kmh fahren.


* Sentence or paragraph where the term occurs: See above
* Document type: Letter
* Target audience: Rail infrastructure construction companies
* Country and dialect (source): German
* Country and dialect (target): British English
Proposed translations (English)
5 +3 Pilots

Discussion

Johannes Gleim Apr 18, 2017:
@ David Die Fahrer von Schienenschleifzügen haben in den wenigsten Fällen die erforderliche Streckenkenntnis, da sich die Baustellen über große Gebiete verteilen und werden dann von streckenkundigen Triebfahrzeugführern begleitet, die wissen, wo mit Signalen und Weichen oder Bahnübergängen und anderen Einrichtungen zu rechnen ist.
David Williams (asker) Apr 18, 2017:
For further information I doubt it is meant as an alternative term for Fahrdienstleiter here, as the context is track/infrastructure construction. This text is in relation to German companies (Gleisbauunternehmen) bidding for tenders in other EU countries.
Mair A-W (PhD) Apr 18, 2017:
@Wendy afaict there is a definition of Zug-lotse as being a new (?) term for Fahrdienstleiter, in parallel with fluglotse, which is approximately dispatcher/traffic controller, although also different countries have varying job specifications anyway - but this is not the definition Asker has been given by his pal - which is more or less the definition of a "pilot" job (which I suspect also mostly doesn't exist as a job description on Anglophone trains) - so first thing is for Asker to be sure that his pal's definition is the right one for his text.
Wendy Streitparth Apr 18, 2017:
Found this on "dispatcher", which doesn't quite fit the bill:

While the reason a dispatcher is on the platform is to ensure the safe and prompt departure of trains, customer service is a huge part of the job and has been for some time.
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50230
David Williams (asker) Apr 18, 2017:
Tsk ederim, Hakki I'm sure it is referring to human resources in this context, not electronic devices.
Hakki Ucar Apr 18, 2017:
Hallo David it sounds like an electronic device to assist Train driver by navigating ,for efficient and free of error during journey..
Mair A-W (PhD) Apr 18, 2017:
Dispatcher @asker did you read this? http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/transport_transp...

(re pilot, you may need to take care: it certainly seems to be in use in India, but in UK/US has another meaning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_(locomotive) )
Ramey Rieger (X) Apr 18, 2017:
Good morning David, That sounds like a navigator to me...

Proposed translations

+3
9 mins
Selected

Pilots

Not only in a maritime context, but also in railway parlance.
See PS10, MT40, PR20 and PR40 of the UIC (RailLexic 4).
Note from asker:
Thanks! That option had crossed my mind.
Peer comment(s):

agree Vedat ViyanalI
1 hr
neutral writeaway : see dbox and other refs. 100% confidence seems to be a tad OTT since this is clearly not the only possible answer
1 hr
agree Dhananjay Rau : agree
2 hrs
agree Johannes Gleim : Lotsenbetrieb / pilot working, piloting (UIC, Lexique général des termes ferroviaires)
14 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you!"

Reference comments

44 mins
Reference:

You will need this module if you
carry out the duties of a:
• driver
• pilotman
• signaller.

https://www.rssb.co.uk/rgs/rulebooks/GERM8000-traindriver Is...
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree writeaway : this also has to be considered imo: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/transport_transp...
36 mins
Thanks, writeaway. Hadn't checked Kudoz.
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