Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

massicot

English translation:

massicot

Added to glossary by DocteurPC
Jan 29, 2005 01:39
19 yrs ago
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French term

massicot

French to English Art/Literary Poetry & Literature se passe au temps de Vermeer
Il me montra les peintures qui y étaient rangées et m'en donna les noms. Outremer, vermillon, massicot...
Dans La jeune fille à la perle de Tracy Chevalier

Je suis peintre et je ne connais pas massicot - GDT me donne guillotine, mais pas pour une peinture - si quelqu'un a la version anglaise (ou a vu le film), éclairez mes lumières
Proposed translations (English)
5 massicot
4 +5 Litharge
5 paper cutter
5 yellow
5 marzacotto
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Discussion

Ian Burley (X) Jan 29, 2005:
I've just found it - and just realized that Tegan had already provided the quote below.
Ian Burley (X) Jan 29, 2005:
I may be missing something here but why translate from French to English something that was written in English in the first place? I have the book here somewhere. I'll try to find the exact quote for you.
Non-ProZ.com Jan 29, 2005:
Ce n'est d�finitivement pas un paper cutter, mais un min�ral, �a ferait du sens -en plus, s'il est � base de plomb, c'est pour cette raison que je ne le conna�trais pas - on n'utilise plus de produits � base de plomb (tant mieux pour notre sant�). D'ailleurs, plus loin, l'auteur parle de �c�ruse�, soit du plomb blanc, qui est tr�s toxique, et qui n'est plus utilis� depuis longtemps pour cette raison.
Non-ProZ.com Jan 29, 2005:
Merci Anna pour ce lien - tr�s joli d'ailleurs (comme le livre)

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massicot

You can search within Amazon.com for selected books, and actually "flip" through them. I think they scan in the pages and somehow all words on the page are registered... so you can not only flip through the books, but do a word search on them. The link for The Girl with the Pearl Earring is:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0452282152/ref=sib_vae_pg_98...

and the quote, from p. 98, is:
"... were kept where, naming the colors as he went. I had not heard of many of the words-ultramarine , vermilion, massicot. The brown and yellow earth colors and the bone black and lead white were stored in little earthenware pots, covered ..."
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I'm giving it to Tegan for getting me the exact sentence in English, but I learned a few things today thanks to all of you (OK yesterday, too)"
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http://perso.wanadoo.fr/mondalire/perle.htm

There is lots of info on the period.
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paper cutter

massicot

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Note added at 23 mins (2005-01-29 02:03:24 GMT)
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Massicot=Massicot
Sorry it may not be paper cutter
Massicot is given as a Mineral may be used in peinture
http://webmineral.com/data/Massicot.shtml

PbO
Environment: Rare mineral of secondary origin associated with galena. Dimorphous with litharge.
IMA Status: Valid Species (Pre-IMA)
Locality: Stolberg, near Aachen, Germany. Link to MinDat.org Location Data.
Name Origin: French name for lead oxide.
Synonym: ICSD 15402
Lead Monoxide
PDF 38-1477


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Please see axplanation
Massicot \\Mas\"si*cot\\, n. [F. massicot; E. masticot is a
corruption.] (Chem.)
Lead protoxide, PbO, obtained as a yellow amorphous powder,
the fused and crystalline form of which is called litharge;
lead ocher. It is used as a pigment.
Litharge \\Lith\"arge\\, n. [OE. litarge, F. litharge, L.
lithargyrus, Gr. ? the scum or foam of silver; li`qos stone +
? silver. Litharge is found in silverbearing lead ore.]
(Chem.)
Lead monoxide; a yellowish red substance, obtained as an
amorphous powder, or crystallized in fine scales, by heating
lead moderately in a current of air or by calcining lead
nitrate or carbonate. It is used in making flint glass, in
glazing earthenware, in making red lead minium, etc. Called
also massicot.

http://dict.die.net/massicot/
Peer comment(s):

neutral Anna Maria Augustine (X) : Not in this context
3 mins
Yes it is a mineral
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Litharge

It is lead oxide.

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Note added at 3 hrs 29 mins (2005-01-29 05:09:13 GMT)
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Etymology:Middle English masticote, from Middle French massicot, masticot, from Old Italian marzacotto, massicotto pottery glaze

1 : lead monoxide obtained as a yellow powder at temperatures below the melting point of the oxide — compare LITHARGE 1
2 : lead monoxide occurring native in the form of yellow crystals — compare LITHARGE 2

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Note added at 3 hrs 34 mins (2005-01-29 05:14:32 GMT)
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You have it in GDT but you will have to look under the head \"Chemistry\"...

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Note added at 3 hrs 37 mins (2005-01-29 05:17:08 GMT)
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Since \"massicot\" occurs in English dictionaries such as Webster\'s why don\'t keep this term?
Peer comment(s):

agree Tegan Raleigh : The English reads: ... paints were kept where, naming the colors as he went. I had not heard of many of the words-ultramarine , vermilion, massicot. The brown and yellow earth colors and the bone black and lead white were stored in little earthenware pots
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Thanks for the source!
agree Dr Sue Levy (X)
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Thank you!
agree Ian Burley (X)
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Thanks!
agree Anna Maria Augustine (X)
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Thanks!
agree Mario Marcolin : a somewhat reddish yellow pigment
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Thanks!
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5 hrs

yellow

cinnabar, azurite and massicot, TOBAS MAYER.

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i meant TOBIAS MAYER
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7 hrs

marzacotto

Give someone a thrill and use the original Italian. Massicot is a bastardization of this word, (meaning lead oxide yellow). You know how bad the French are at foreign languages. The paper cutter is named after a frog called Massicot. (Petit Larousse illustré 1988).
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