Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
good wine needs no bush
Spanish translation:
el buen vino no necesita ramo
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dcanossa
Feb 19, 2008 16:35
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English term
Shakespeare: good wine needs no bush
English to Spanish
Social Sciences
Folklore
vintner's bush
This refers to the bundle of ivy, branches or straw that vintners hang in front of their homes to advertise the sale of their own wines. The custom is over 2,000 years old. I have an academic article that says this custom is still practiced in Spain, but I have no idea what it is called. If it helps, the vintner's bush is called bouchon in French and Weinzeiger in English, and the restaurants that the vinters run are called Heruige, Buschenschank, Besenwirtschaft or Strausswirtschaft in German, frasca or fraschette in Italian and osmica in Slovenian.
I'd be grateful for any tips if anyone is familiar with the custom in Spain. Please answer in English.
I'd be grateful for any tips if anyone is familiar with the custom in Spain. Please answer in English.
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Feb 24, 2008 14:41: dcanossa Created KOG entry
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English term (edited):
good wine needs no bush
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el buen vino no necesita ramo
please read the second sentence of the text from the link. good luck!
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Bubo Coroman (X)
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gracias deborah!
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Ivannia Garcia
: 'zactly :D
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gracias ivannia!
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María José Domínguez Camba
: vaya, veo que en esa web hay varias versiones y tu has dado justo con la palabra que por lo visto está buscando nuestra colega
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gracias maria! eso espero, haber podido ayudar! :)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Since I needed a literal, and not figurative, translation, this one fits best. Diego, if you ever come to Germany, please look me up and I will treat you to a beer (or a good wine with or without a bush) to toast you and say thank you for your help on this one."
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Carlos Vergara
Native in Spanish
Fast and reliable
Native in: Spanish (Variants: Latin American, Colombian, Argentine, Mexican) 
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, Portuguese to Spanish, and 2 more.
Al buen vino no le hace falta botella
I have heard this expression form my brother-in-law, who was from M´laga
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Lydia De Jorge
United States
United States
Native in English
&
Spanish
Works in field
United States
Don't just say it, say it right!
Native in: Spanish , English
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, English, and 1 more.
el buen vino no necesita anunciarse/propaganda
34 mins
Margarita Ezquerra (Smart Translators, S.L.)
Spain
Spain
Native in Spanish
Spain
Margarita Ezquerra (Smart Translators, S.L.)
Accredited translators 20 yrs experience
Native in: Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, French to Spanish
el buen vino (o el vino que es bueno) no ha menester pregonero / el buen paño en el arca se vende
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el buen paño en el arca se vende - good wine needs no bush ...- [ Traduzca esta página ]Un refrán antiguo dice que el buen paño en el arca se vende, queriendo significar que no hace falta ni enseñarlo ... Shakespeare: As You Like It (Epilogue). ...
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Vladimir Martinez
Spain
Spain
Native in Spanish
Specializes in field
Spain
Even Sport items
Native in: Spanish (Variant: Cuban)
Works in: Spanish to English, Italian to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
El buen vino no se anuncia,se prueba!
La Rioja bottled Red Wine adds!
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Note added at 8 hrs (2008-02-20 01:01:25 GMT)
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Living in Madrid I did learn that phrase about good wines catering!
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Note added at 8 hrs (2008-02-20 01:01:25 GMT)
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Living in Madrid I did learn that phrase about good wines catering!
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52 mins
Darío Giménez
Spain
Spain
Native in Spanish
Spain
Traduzco, luego existo.
Native in: Spanish , Catalan
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish, Catalan to Spanish, and 1 more.
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el buen vino se vende solo
Una bien sencilla y de cosecha propia... ;-)
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Note added at 21 horas (2008-02-20 14:31:52 GMT)
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Hi, Anne Marie. I don't know if there is such a precise word or phrase in Spain for the "vintner's bush". Certainly ancient times most shops, taverns ans craftsmen (in Spain as in other european countries) used to hang samples of their works or raw materials over their doors (that was the primitive and original trade sign) , so I guess that in the case of wine sellers that would be "un ramo/manojo de hojas de parra/vid" or something like that... Sorry I can't further help you... :-)
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Note added at 21 horas (2008-02-20 14:31:52 GMT)
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Hi, Anne Marie. I don't know if there is such a precise word or phrase in Spain for the "vintner's bush". Certainly ancient times most shops, taverns ans craftsmen (in Spain as in other european countries) used to hang samples of their works or raw materials over their doors (that was the primitive and original trade sign) , so I guess that in the case of wine sellers that would be "un ramo/manojo de hojas de parra/vid" or something like that... Sorry I can't further help you... :-)
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Judith Payro
: me gusta esta opción, sencilla y transmite el mensaje, contundente
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Gracias, Judith. :-)
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2 days 20 hrs
María José Domínguez Camba
Spain
Spain
Native in Spanish
Specializes in field
Spain
Native in: Galician , Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, German to Spanish, English to Galician, and 3 more.
al buen vino le sobra el reclamo
If you are looking for the name of that branch, sorry, I've never heard of that custom. But, if you need the translation of this particular quote in Shakespeare's _As You Like It_, here is one version available on the Internet (I cannot find the name of the translator):
"Si es verdad que al buen vino le sobra el reclamo, también es verdad que a la buena comedia le sobra el epílogo."
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Note added at 2 days20 hrs (2008-02-22 13:22:36 GMT)
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Look what I just found on the DRAE:
ramo.
(Del lat. ramus).
8. m. Rama de pino u olivo que se ponía para anunciar el lugar donde se vendía vino.
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Note added at 2 days20 hrs (2008-02-22 13:24:49 GMT)
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The link below refers to my first note, not to the last one. I still don't understand that form we have to fill :(
"Si es verdad que al buen vino le sobra el reclamo, también es verdad que a la buena comedia le sobra el epílogo."
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Note added at 2 days20 hrs (2008-02-22 13:22:36 GMT)
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Look what I just found on the DRAE:
ramo.
(Del lat. ramus).
8. m. Rama de pino u olivo que se ponía para anunciar el lugar donde se vendía vino.
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Note added at 2 days20 hrs (2008-02-22 13:24:49 GMT)
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The link below refers to my first note, not to the last one. I still don't understand that form we have to fill :(
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15 el buen vino no necesita rama. 16 el vino de casa no emborracha. 17 quién tiene en casa un bueno sótano no va a beber en tasca ...
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