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English term or phrase:

Artistic setting

English answer:

Live Entertainment

Added to glossary by eski
Sep 22, 2009 19:11
14 yrs ago
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English term

Artistic setting

English Art/Literary Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting performing arts
I'm looking for an English equivalent of Polish term, that is usually rendered in translation as "artistic setting", but I am not sure if it's not a false friend.

Polish term is used when some artists (usually musicians, but they might be any performing artists, like dancers, comedians, actors) are invited to non-artistic event (like company party, opening of a building, etc.) to add some splendour, glamour, and prestige.

Judging by google, English term is used rather for describing a beautiful surrounding of an event, just like in the sentences below:
"Very artistic setting to have a coffee"
"A GOOD meal in an artistic setting"
"wall paintings were also an integral part of church interiors, enhancing devotional imagery [...], and providing an artistic setting for the church's sacred rituals and public ceremonies".

My question is: what term (if any) would best fit the circumstances that I described above.

When answering please mention the variant of English (AmE, BrE, other).
Responses
2 +5 ...Live Entertainment...
4 +3 celebrity appearance
2 +1 a (dash of) show business/showbiz glamour/sparkle // a touch/sense/feel of the artistic milieu
3 artistic gathering
3 -1 artistic interlude/ ambient music/performance
4 -3 artistic setting
Change log

Sep 25, 2009 17:59: eski Created KOG entry

Discussion

Rafal Korycinski (asker) Sep 25, 2009:
Thank you! Thanks to everyone who provided suggestions and cared to comment on answers. I've carefully red all of them. They have helped me to understand the cultural differences and provide additional information. Also sorry for not providing enough context from the very beginning - it's not easy to 'jump out' of one's cultural context.
Rafal Korycinski (asker) Sep 24, 2009:
The invited artist ARE performing I have asked many people to make sure (just in case I am biased in some way), and all are sure about it.
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The word 'oprawa' being a part of this term is used here in a figurative meaning. Direct meaning is something like a frame (picture frame), setting (gem setting in a ring), binding (a book binding) or holder (light-bulb holder). I understand that I cannot translate it directly, but I need some kind of equivalent, as this term is used quite often in Polish on official occasions.
Shera Lyn Parpia Sep 24, 2009:
Rafal... from your passage it does seem that these are performing artists invited to play or otherwise entertain guests. Which would make eski's answer a distinct possibility.
Rafal Korycinski (asker) Sep 23, 2009:
I'll try :) The text below is a translation of the company website, that can be found here: http://www.drugastrona.com.pl/index.php?go=produkcje&id=14
<p>
Apart of various kinds of private parties, banquets, and events, we also organize New Year's Eve balls. For several years they are being organized in the Warsaw Technical University premises. We are taking care of the entire logistics, stage set, illumination, decoration, music, catering and so on.<p>

We always pay great attention to the artistic setting, therefore cooperate with outstanding vocal and instrumental ensembles, such as: Big Gala Bend, Evergreen Orchestra, "Wytrawni", Cygański Teatr Muzyczny "Terno" (Gypsy musical theatre "Terno") and Roma Theatre artists.
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Of course 'artistic setting' is the term I don't like here.
Henry Schroeder Sep 23, 2009:
Rafal Korycinski Could you give us a translated passage with this phrase in it. Something such as: "The musicians are invited to create an X X. Their presence will dazzle your guests and impress your friends...

In this case it might be something like artistic ambience, but without a specific case it is hard to say.
Jenni Lukac (X) Sep 22, 2009:
I spent some time looking at sites of booking agencies for artists in the U.K. and the U.S. but could find no parallel term for your "artistic setting". I did find lots of entries for "celebrity appearances", "celebrity guest events", "celebrity mixers", and "guest artist appearances" but could not come up with an "atmospheric" adjective when I keyed in music. I saw "live music" or "live entertainment" for a long list of "special" events. "Cultural events" and "cultural mixers" turned up diverse, but different, concepts. You might have to go with a literal translation or a longer description.
sirgay (X) Sep 22, 2009:
artistic setting still fits fine... honestly...
Rafal Korycinski (asker) Sep 22, 2009:
Artists are there to perform, guest are just watching. People meet on any occasion, and they want this meeting to be something extraordinary, not just a regular meeting. The occasion may be very different, eg. last day in school/college, anniversary of the company, meeting of school graduates. Depending on budget they invite some artists, or they prepare some show by themselves. It's bit like like a decoration, but not done with ribbons and balloons, but with a live show. Sorry I cannot explain it more clear :-(
Shera Lyn Parpia Sep 22, 2009:
Are these guests invited to perform or just to show their faces?

Responses

+5
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Selected

...Live Entertainment...

Hi Rafal;
As I have no idea of your original expression, I'm really just trying to work with your description of the Polish term; so please forgive me if it doesn't fit your context.

Saludos,
eski :))

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-09-22 20:52:11 GMT)
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You're more than welcome, Rafal; hope my suggestion is helpful: Saludos from Acapulco!

:)) eski

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Note added at 2 days22 hrs (2009-09-25 17:52:47 GMT) Post-grading
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Many thanks to Rafal and to my peers for your kind consideration for this rather challenging (and enriching) entry. Saludos!!!!!!

eski :))
Note from asker:
Polish term translated word-by-word would be something like "artists' (=made by artists) frame/binding/setting". Your suggestion is definitely a good one, let's see if there are any other good options. iMuchas gracias!
Peer comment(s):
agree Tina Vonhof (X)
29 mins
Hi Tina: Thanks & Saludos from Acapulco! :)) eski
disagree sirgay (X) : if they are invited it doesn't mean they are going to perform... their presence is enough.../// the asker doesn't know what he wants...
1 hr
Thanks for your "unbiased" opinion, Sirgay: Fortunately: the asker had a different view. :)) eski
agree cmwilliams (X) : a possibility
11 hrs
Thanks CMW, appreciate your consideration! :)) eski
agree Henry Schroeder : Very possible given added context
12 hrs
Also a good possibility:Thanks & Saludos, Henry! :)) eski
agree Trudy Peters : seems like the most neutral solution. "Gala" may be a bit OTT.
21 hrs
Thanks & saludos from Acapulco, Trudy! :)) eski
agree Shera Lyn Parpia : in view of Rafal's latest information, this could be right
1 day 10 hrs
Thanks Shera Lynn; I appreciate your confirmation; Saludos! ;))
agree urbom : Given the new context, this sounds good.
1 day 14 hrs
Hi urbom; Thanks & Saludos from Acapulco! :)) eski
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "iMuchas Gracias! I think it is the most safe equivalent. In some cases Caryl's suggestion would also fit."
+1
1 hr

a (dash of) show business/showbiz glamour/sparkle // a touch/sense/feel of the artistic milieu

Hi, Rafal :-)

I don't know if this is the kind of thing you're after? It's very difficult because, of course, so much depends on the register, style and purpose of the source text. So these are some pick n' mix suggestions from very different areas of the register/style spectrum - biut, of course, there are many other possibilities.

I do think that the 'artistic setting' might indeed be something of a misunderstanding. As Tina has already pointed out, that would refer, I'd think, to the physical surroundings.

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-09-22 20:26:33 GMT)
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BTW, vis a vis the language variety, I'm not sure that my suggestions are specifically one thing or another - perhaps our US English colleagues could correct me if I'm wrong?
Note from asker:
The term I am asking about is "oprawa artystyczna".
Peer comment(s):
agree Jack Doughty : Yours is quite a wide-ranging answer, but I think the right term is in there somewhere.
1 hr
Yes, you're right - it's very wide, I'm afraid. But it was posted very early on, before all the elucidation. Thank you for working your way through it!
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1 hr

artistic gathering

The artists assemble or gather at the function.
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+3
8 hrs

celebrity appearance

http://www.nmplive.co.uk/personal-appearances.aspx

American, British or Canadian term.
Peer comment(s):
agree Shera Lyn Parpia
2 hrs
agree cmwilliams (X)
3 hrs
agree Henry Schroeder : Very possible, see added context
4 hrs
agree urbom : These are also called "personal appearances" by celebrities (as the URL you cite makes clear!).
5 hrs
disagree sirgay (X) : doesn't suit ""oprawa artystyczna" if you knew what it meant, of course, see asker's comment to caryl swift
8 hrs
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-1
14 hrs

artistic interlude/ ambient music/performance

If the musicians, dancers or whatever are performing at set times as part of the programme to divide up various segments of whatever function it may be, I'd say an artistic interlude would be one possible option.

If musicians/singers are providing a constant background performance, you could possibly refer to it as ambient music, but I'm not sure how you would refer to a troupe of acrobats or dancers, possibly a background or ambient performance.
Peer comment(s):
disagree sirgay (X) : no, artistic people and their performance are used as props for that setting... e.g: Sarkozy used short people as props... if you watch tv...
1 hr
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-3
10 mins

artistic setting

it suits fine...

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Note added at 11 mins (2009-09-22 19:23:03 GMT)
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• aesthetically pleasing : computer programs that produce artistic designs.

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Note added at 13 mins (2009-09-22 19:25:05 GMT)
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and i am pretty confident that it's both acceptable in AmE and BrE

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Note added at 16 hrs (2009-09-23 11:40:26 GMT)
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here are examples of artistic settings with people in it:

Louis continued: “It’s sad to see musically untrained youngsters shucking and jiving for a bit of money and fame. Most could never dream of succeeding in a serious artistic setting like a church choir, dance ensemble or jazz band, places that require study, discipline and hard work. Many would be swiftly laughed off the stage.”
http://www.synciti.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39999

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Note added at 16 hrs (2009-09-23 11:57:30 GMT)
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MUSI 2325 Vocal Instruction I
This course is for students who wish to learn more about singing in an artistic setting, entertaining, inspiring and moving audiences with one's singing.
http://www.utdallas.edu/ah/programs/arts/musi/courses.html

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Note added at 17 hrs (2009-09-23 12:23:11 GMT)
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and the last link is to the website of
The University of Texas at Dallas
School of Arts and Humanities
by the way...
Peer comment(s):
neutral cmwilliams (X) : This doesn't really fit the context provided.
12 mins
oh, but i thought it did fit...
disagree Tina Vonhof (X) : An artistic setting means it's held in an art gallery, museum, a garden with sculptures, etc.
27 mins
not necessarily: see my answer...
disagree Shera Lyn Parpia : not really, it doesn't convey the idea at all.
10 hrs
yes, it does
disagree urbom : No, you're getting distracted by the examples of "artistic setting" given by the asker. This is not what he's after.
13 hrs
yes, he is
disagree kmtext : In English, an artistic setting refers to the ambience generated by the physical place, not the people in it.
14 hrs
well, your english is obviously quite impressive: • the place and time at which a play, novel, or film is represented as happening : short stories with a contemporary setting... without people in it?!
neutral eski : Perhaps you thought wrong; just a comment. :)) eski
21 hrs
you still need to substantiate your comments, eski... whatever those comments are...
agree Henry Schroeder : Very possible given added context, maybe artistic ambience or something similiar. A certain way of reading the question before as an English speaker led to a misunderstanding for many of us, including myself.
1 day 10 hrs
thanks :-)
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