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eine erste obergerichtliche Rechtsprechung
Neubauer
Jul 8, 2020 20:45
3 yrs ago
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German term

Schokoluft

German to English Marketing Cooking / Culinary
This is part of a menu as follows: Mousse | Heidelbeeren Gelée | Schokoluft | Schokopuder
Does anyone know what Schokoluft is? I doubt it should be translated to "Chocolate air". Thanks!
Proposed translations (English)
3 +3 chocolate foam
3 +1 chocolate whip
4 chocolate mousse
3 chocolate aero /aerated chocolate
References
Berliner Luft
Change log

Jul 9, 2020 05:21: Steffen Walter changed "Field" from "Other" to "Marketing"

Discussion

beermatt Jul 9, 2020:
Yes, Pliiiiz! Please let us know what your choice or respectively the client's choice/suggestion was!
I'm sure many (non-English-native-speaker) chefs around the world would appreciate an authoritative suggestion on how to name this dish...
Martina Une (asker) Jul 9, 2020:
Checking with client. Thanks everyone! Very helpful. I am checking with the client right to determine the best choice. I will let you all know when I hear back.
Dorothy Schaps Jul 9, 2020:
Hi Martina! I'm wondering if you could ask the client for clarification as to the difference between "Mousse" and "Schokoluft" - they sound very similar to me...
beermatt Jul 9, 2020:
philgoddard: erm, not really brownie, no, I don't think.
Seems to me more like a very fluffy meringue-y kind of thing, with all the egg-whites, and some cocoa or ground chocolate added.
Shame the name
"chocolate fluff"
is already reserved for a relatively particular dish (with thousands of varieties) in the language of the Angles across the world...

And "Chocolate Cloud" too....
another possibly appropriate no-go...
philgoddard Jul 8, 2020:
So it's eggs, sugar, flour, and cocoa powder, and it's piped onto the dish. It sounds like a kind of liquid brownie.
beermatt Jul 8, 2020:
You can find a recipe... ...here, for example:

https://www.nachrichten.at/meine-welt/essen_trinken/rezepte/...

but so far I can't find an "accepted" name in English for the dish (or rather decoration for a dessert).
Maybe you'll have to get creative and invent your own...

Proposed translations

+3
13 hrs
Selected

chocolate foam

I'm sure we're all familiar with the near-ubiquitous "foams" that have popped up in fine dining & on Masterchef over the past few years (see e.g. https://www.greatbritishchefs.com/recipes/chocolate-moelleux... for a caramel version). It seems to hit the spot here, getting the notion of the airy texture across while sounding rather appetising, to boot!

(plus, there seems to be no fixed recipe for a "foam", which neatly side-steps the somewhat confusing inclusion of flour in the recipe in the discussion box!)





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Note added at 13 hrs (2020-07-09 10:14:09 GMT)
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Just noticed the example sentence has been cut off - here it is in full:

Essentially, foams are just aerated liquids; and their density will depend on the thickness of the liquid and the ratio of liquid to air. A lighter foam may be more accurately described as froth – such as the head of a beer or cappuccino – while a denser foam will resemble mousse. But whether you are striving for froth, mousse, foam or even ‘air’, the methods are likely to be similar.
Example sentence:

Essentially, foams are just aerated liquids; and their density will depend on the thickness of the liquid and the ratio of liquid to air. A lighter foam may be more accurately described as froth – such as the head of a beer or cappuccino – while a den

Reference:

https://www.greatbritishchefs.com/how-to-cook/how-to-make-a-foam

Peer comment(s):
agree Lancashireman : "Aerated chocolate is a type of chocolate which has been turned into a foam via the addition of gas bubbles." (neutron bombed by beermatt)
1 hr
Thank you - looks like this might end up being another contentious one! I do quite like your "aerated chocolate" - I suppose it's down to whether the mystery item is a solid (then I'd definitely pick yours!) or something soft (of the foam/mousse variety!)
agree beermatt : While I agree with this answer as a possibility, I still continue to neutron-bomb "aerated chocolate" & "chocolate aero". The overwhelming majority of web hits for the latter two point at industry products known in Germany as "Luftschokolade"!
3 hrs
Thank you! It might be mid-afternoon peckishness, but I could just do with a chocolate aero (the chocolate bar, not whatever concoction this "Luft" is!) at the moment!
agree Johanna Timm, PhD : That's what my second reference suggested as well!
6 hrs
Thanks, Johanna - great reference, I've just been looking at it!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "So chocolate foam is the winner this time. But all the other answers are also very helpful and I guess it really depends on the context. Thanks so much, guys!"
+1
38 mins

chocolate whip

This recipe describes what it is:

http://www.niema.at/homepage/rezepte/rezept/4a384ee701e9008e...

and says that is dispensed from one of these:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/iSi-160301-GOURMET-WHIP/dp/B001U83T...

so perhaps "chocolate whip" would work?
Peer comment(s):
agree Chris Pr : Does look the more likely...especially with the 'whipper' device clearly named in your link, and with the piping nozzles also included...
10 mins
neutral philgoddard : I just wonder if there's a more enticing name. To me, this suggests a packet of powder that you add milk to.
45 mins
neutral beermatt : agree with philgoddard about the name -- and it's not really a "whip" kind of thing if you need to bake it or heat it in a microwave, is it?
2 hrs
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1 hr

chocolate aero /aerated chocolate

chocolate aero
https://www.greatbritishchefs.com/recipes/chocolate-aero-cho...
Aerated chocolate is a type of chocolate which has been turned into a foam via the addition of gas bubbles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerated_chocolate

I think the Luft element needs to be reflected in the EN version.

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https://www.agfg.com.au/recipe/chocolate-mousse-with-violet-...

https://www.pinterest.ie/pin/449445237805754015/

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g25510...
Peer comment(s):
neutral beermatt : OK - to be fair, completely new comment: Maybe this is a "more-than-three-attempts" problem? Aerated chocolate - definitely no! Chocolate Aero in your first link - approaching the right thing, but only one link. I usually love your contributions, though!
2 hrs
"but so far I can't find an "accepted" name in English for the dish (or rather decoration for a dessert). Maybe you'll have to get creative and invent your own..." // Comments on every answer submitted! You are the strongest link.
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16 hrs

chocolate mousse

Chocolate mousse is in effect aerated chocolate because you whip it to get it :-)
I think just an alternative cooler way of saying chocolate mousse :-)
Linguee says
Schokoladenmousse
less common:
Schokomousse
Reference:

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+chocolate+mousse&oq=what+is+chocolate+mousse&aqs=chrome.0.0l8.5764j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Peer comment(s):
neutral beermatt : Erm, no in this case. There is a distinctive reference to "mousse" in the source text, putting it apart from the "Schokoluft".
4 mins
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Reference comments

24 mins
Reference:

Berliner Luft

Peer comments on this reference comment:
neutral philgoddard : No, I don't think this is it - see beermatt's recipe.
9 mins
true!
neutral beermatt : with philgoddard -- sorry, but I think this isn't on the right track. /// that new link seems to be more in the right direction - that might be an acceptable name for it, but it still doesn't quite hit it IMO.
3 hrs
I agree! :-) It's more a chocolate foam:https://www.amazingfoodmadeeasy.com/info/modernist-recipes/m...
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