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Blanka Salkova
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... Dec 1, 2013

[quote]Milan Condak wrote:

Milan Condak wrote:
Příklady jmen, které jsem obdržel:
Iker Alvis, Roman Brenan, Nick Michael, Nany Albert, Rebecca Adam, Angel Fujiwara, Adam Wahl,...


Pokud je KudoZ jedním z nástrojů, jak být zobrazen jako top překladatel, může být odpovídání na Kudoz dobrá metoda, jak získat renomé. Já pouze rozšířím seznam odesilatelů o ty, které jsem nesmazal.

Odesilatelé vypadají v Outlooku takto:

[email protected]; za uživatele; Angel Fujiwara

[[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; Ash Omata [[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; Coria James

[[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; Emily White [emily-

[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; Faten Shokiar

[[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; Fatma Jarad

[[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; Hayato kimata

[[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; Heba Yousef [Heba-

[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; Hedaia Abu Shaqra [Hedaia-

[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; Choi Woo [[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; Iker Alvis [[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; Jane Killy

[[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; Kenta Hirano

[[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; Lee Fuxiang [Lee-

[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; Lina Hmaid [Lina-

[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; lose keny [[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; Nany Albert [Nany-

[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; Nick Michael

[[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; Rebecca Adam [Rebecca-

[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; Roman Brenan

[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; tahreer salem [Tahreer-

[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; Tomoko Nakata [Tomoko-

[email protected]]

Pro mě je varovaním již stále stejná forma odesilatele.

Milan

[Edited at 2013-12-01 15:35 GMT]



Já dostávám nabídky od těch samých lidí, někteří už psali i 2x. Přitom nenabízím tuto formu spolupráce. Oni prostě zkoušejí, kdo se chytne. Jen je to už otravné, protože ne všechny chytí spam filtr.


 
João Roque Dias
João Roque Dias
Portugal
Local time: 20:00
English to Portuguese
Exposing translator scammers, impersonators and CV/ID thieves Dec 5, 2013

You're invited to visit my TRANSLATOR SCAMMERS DIRECTORY

 
BabelOn-line
BabelOn-line
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:00
English to French
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How do we strike back? Dec 18, 2013

João's site is indeed excellent, he did a great job creating this resource. Most recommended.

I found all the dodgy emails addresses I ever needed to check listed on his site, so he de facto created the most comprehensive resource.

I am however wondering how we could hit back. Being aware is good, but this is a bit like the Nigerian scam: as it is a game of numbers, scammers will carry on for ever, always hoping to catch just one more guy - there is not cost in sending
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João's site is indeed excellent, he did a great job creating this resource. Most recommended.

I found all the dodgy emails addresses I ever needed to check listed on his site, so he de facto created the most comprehensive resource.

I am however wondering how we could hit back. Being aware is good, but this is a bit like the Nigerian scam: as it is a game of numbers, scammers will carry on for ever, always hoping to catch just one more guy - there is not cost in sending emails.

As an agency, I am now fairly certain I will never be caught by these scams – be it because after reading João's site, I now check all email addresses on João's site + phone numbers.

But I still receive these scams and this is damaging proper linguists reputation and our business. Gmail will not even consider banning addresses on spurious privacy grounds.

Any idea, anyone?
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João Roque Dias
João Roque Dias
Portugal
Local time: 20:00
English to Portuguese
Striking back Dec 19, 2013

First, thank you, BabelOn-line, for the kind words about my TRANSLATOR SCAMMERS DIRECTORY.

Second, and most importantly, how do we strike back? Here's my two cents about it:

1. Scammers live off anonymity and off a zero footprint on the Internet. Once publicly exposed, their anonymity and Internet stealthiness is gone, thus giving them the publicity they don't want, and the o
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First, thank you, BabelOn-line, for the kind words about my TRANSLATOR SCAMMERS DIRECTORY.

Second, and most importantly, how do we strike back? Here's my two cents about it:

1. Scammers live off anonymity and off a zero footprint on the Internet. Once publicly exposed, their anonymity and Internet stealthiness is gone, thus giving them the publicity they don't want, and the online presence that they don't have. Scream, yell, and raise hell, making their names and emails known and public. Post them everywhere you can. In most cases, once actively exposed, scammers just disable the email addresses they've used, and that particular scam is over. That's why scammers use one, two, five email addresses for each identity they use.

2. Insert an updated photo on your CV and ask your prospective clients to confirm each other's identity on Skype via video chat. Or, at least, via mobile phone: scammers get really uncomfortable when you tell them you want to talk to them on the phone. Excuses given range from "I don't use phone for business", to "my camera is broken" or to "I can't talk now, I have a sore throat"...

3. Remember: this is, in fact, a war of attrition, which, given the current, and growing, level of public awareness and exposure, the scammers cannot and will not win.

4. Everybody -- translators and translation companies -- should ALWAYS follow sound risk management rules. This excellent article by Enrique Cavalitto is a must-read about this issue: ProZ.com series on Risk Management: Scammers who steal translations
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Milan Condak
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Local time: 21:00
English to Czech
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Další odesilatelé Dec 20, 2013



Second, and most importantly, how do we strike back? Here's my two cents about it:

1.

Post them everywhere you can.

2. Insert an updated photo on your CV and ask your prospective clients to confirm each other's identity on Skype via video chat. Or, at least, via mobile phone:



Thank you, João Roque Dias and BabelOn-line for your inputs.
I received 2 new offers, so I update a list:

[email protected]; za uživatele; Iryana Egger [[email protected]]

[email protected]; za uživatele; Tomoko Nakata [[email protected]]

Strojový překlad příspěvků v angličtině je určitě srozumitelný.

Přidal jsem další 2 odesilatele. João vyjmenoval osvědčené metody sebeobrany.

Praví překladatelé mohou svoji identitu prokázat pomocí vizuální komunikace, protože webové kamery a kamery v mobilu jsou běžné.

Milan


 
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tak trochu k tématu Dec 23, 2013

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