Pages in topic: [1 2] > | Quality assessment - how much do you charge? Thread poster: Inez Ulrich
| Inez Ulrich Germany Local time: 04:24 Member (2016) English to German + ...
Hi all, quality assessment of translations is something I don't have to do often, I cannot even remember the time when I last did it. Right now I have a request for one, and I'm not sure how much to charge. Any advice? Hourly rate obviously, but how much? Less than for proofreading? | | |
If it's obviously your hourly rate, the answer is your hourly rate... Or are you asking how long it will take? It would take me less than a minute to assess the quality of a translation. One-hour minimum charge then. | | | Hourly rate. Project cost will depend on what paperwork is to be submitted. | Oct 28, 2021 |
If your client requires a detailed analysis of errors by category and severity, you may end up with an arm-long TQA report. If they need a pass/fail opinion, it may take 5 minutes to come up with the verdict. | | | Inez Ulrich Germany Local time: 04:24 Member (2016) English to German + ... TOPIC STARTER you are right | Oct 28, 2021 |
Ice Scream wrote: If it's obviously your hourly rate, the answer is your hourly rate... Or are you asking how long it will take? It would take me less than a minute to assess the quality of a translation. One-hour minimum charge then. yes, confusing indeed! What I actually meant was: what do you charge for hour for tasks like this? Of course, it can be done within minutes, or with a full report it might take hours. But what is your hourly rate? Or do you have a fixed rate per hour, no matter what task it is (translation, proofreading, editing)? | |
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Inez Ulrich Germany Local time: 04:24 Member (2016) English to German + ... TOPIC STARTER no detailed analysis needed | Oct 28, 2021 |
Vladimir Pochinov wrote: If your client requires a detailed analysis of errors by category and severity, you may end up with an arm-long TQA report. If they need a pass/fail opinion, it may take 5 minutes to come up with the verdict. yes, exactly, I just wasn't sure about the rate | | | Inga Petkelyte Portugal Local time: 03:24 Lithuanian to Portuguese + ... Less than a minute? | Oct 28, 2021 |
I have been doing QA and none of them takes less than a minute - for downloading the file, naming it for my records, then uploading, that alone takes a minute or more. Now, assessment itself depends on the document volume and the quality thereof, for we are asked to correct what needs to be corrected and to justify each correction. And I could go on. | | |
I have a fixed rate per hour for some tasks (adaptation, proofreading, editing, QA, transcreation), some require more time than others. I have never invoiced translation per hour, though my hourly rate is based on how many words I can translate per hour. My minimum charge rate is the same as my hour rate. | | | Inez Ulrich Germany Local time: 04:24 Member (2016) English to German + ... TOPIC STARTER
Teresa Borges wrote: I have a fixed rate per hour for some tasks (adaptation, proofreading, editing, QA, transcreation), some require more time than others. I have never invoiced translation per hour, though my hourly rate is based on how many words I can translate per hour. My minimum charge rate is the same as my hour rate. Thanks, Teresa, same here. But I really need to charge my hour rate as minimum fee, also for small translations (although I get fairly paid most of the time - I don't have any problem if a client pays me 15 euros for 30 words or so.) | |
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Inez Ulrich Germany Local time: 04:24 Member (2016) English to German + ... TOPIC STARTER
Inga Petkelyte wrote: I have been doing QA and none of them takes less than a minute - for downloading the file, naming it for my records, then uploading, that alone takes a minute or more. Now, assessment itself depends on the document volume and the quality thereof, for we are asked to correct what needs to be corrected and to justify each correction. And I could go on. you don't do any corrections while doing QA. I just get an impression of the text and let the client know about it. But you are right, it takes more than a minute. | | | Hourly rate is supposed to be a fixed one | Oct 28, 2021 |
Teresa Borges wrote: I have a fixed rate per hour for some tasks (adaptation, proofreading, editing, QA, transcreation), some require more time than others. Exactly. I believe it is the only logical approach. The key differentiator would be the number of words you can process within one hour. I show below how your price schedule could look like, with two different hourly rates: Example 1. Translation: €0.10 per word (~300 words/hour) Revision (or bilingual editing): €30.00 per hour (~600 words/hour), or €0.05 per word Proofreading (or monolingual editing): €30.00 per hour (~1,000 words/hour), or €0.03 per word Example 2. Translation: €0.12 per word (~300 words/hour) Revision (or bilingual editing): €36.00 per hour (~600 words/hour), or €0.06 per word Proofreading (or monolingual editing): €36.00 per hour (~1,000 words/hour), or €0.036 per word As you see, the amount to be earned per hour remains the same in each option above, regardless of the task involved. | | | Inez Ulrich Germany Local time: 04:24 Member (2016) English to German + ... TOPIC STARTER
Vladimir Pochinov wrote: Teresa Borges wrote: I have a fixed rate per hour for some tasks (adaptation, proofreading, editing, QA, transcreation), some require more time than others. Exactly. I believe it is the only logical approach. The key differentiator would be the number of words you can process within one hour. I show below how your price schedule could look like, with two different hourly rates: Example 1. Translation: €0.10 per word (~300 words/hour) Revision (or bilingual editing): €30.00 per hour (~600 words/hour), or €0.05 per word Proofreading (or monolingual editing): €30.00 per hour (~1,000 words/hour), or €0.03 per word Example 2. Translation: €0.12 per word (~300 words/hour) Revision (or bilingual editing): €36.00 per hour (~600 words/hour), or €0.06 per word Proofreading (or monolingual editing): €36.00 per hour (~1,000 words/hour), or €0.036 per word As you see, the amount to be earned per hour remains the same in each option above, regardless of the task involved. Thank you, Vladimir, that is exactly my approach. Just another question, if I may: Lately, I noticed that a lot of agencies hire cheap translators and then expect the proofreader/editor to fix that mess, of course at the lower rate of proofreading. A clever way to save money, of course. For this reason, I always ask to see the translation beforehand and then discuss the rate necessary for the work involved. This is more -retranslation than editing, of course. You certainly charge way more for this kind of work, too, right? And how much more, if I may ask? For me, usually around € 0,08/word. Or do you consider this too cheap? | | | An hour is an hour | Oct 28, 2021 |
Inez Ulrich wrote:What I actually meant was: what do you charge for hour for tasks like this? Of course, it can be done within minutes, or with a full report it might take hours. But what is your hourly rate? Or do you have a fixed rate per hour, no matter what task it is (translation, proofreading, editing)? Yes, one fixed rate. An hour of my time is an hour of my time. (That said... I do charge some clients a lower hourly rate because they wouldn't stomach my standard hourly rate, just as I charge some less per word. But I only take their work if I'm sitting there twiddling my thumbs or if it's something I really enjoy.) | |
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Proofreading vs. Revision vs. Retranslation | Oct 28, 2021 |
Inez Ulrich wrote: Just another question, if I may: Lately, I noticed that a lot of agencies hire cheap translators and then expect the proofreader/editor to fix that mess, of course at the lower rate of proofreading. A clever way to save money, of course. For this reason, I always ask to see the translation beforehand and then discuss the rate necessary for the work involved. This is more -retranslation than editing, of course. You certainly charge way more for this kind of work, too, right? And how much more, if I may ask? For me, usually around € 0,08/word. Or do you consider this too cheap? It depends. You have your own rates. I rarely take on revision tasks involving translations by unknown translators. I am gradually switching to working for direct clients, and my primary offer to them is the TEP package. This means working in tandem with one of my trusted colleagues, taking turns as a translator and an editor. The final responsibility lies with the original translator, who can either accept or reject the changes proposed by the reviser. Regarding your question about the pricing for revision, charge anywhere between your regular rate for revision and your regular rate for translation if the original "masterpiece" calls for a complete retranslation (just advise the client that you can only retranslate it from scratch because it is beyond salvage). As a separate note, you need to clarify what the client means by proofreading. ISO 17100 standard: ------------------------------- 2.2.4 post-edit edit and correct machine translation output (2.2.3) 2.2.5 check examination of target language content (2.3.3) carried out by the translator (2.4.4) 2.2.6 revision bilingual examination of target language content (2.3.3) against source language content (2.3.2) for its suitability for the agreed purpose Note 1 to entry: The term bilingual editing is sometimes used as a synonym for revision. 2.2.7 review monolingual examination of target language content (2.3.3) for its suitability for the agreed purpose Note 1 to entry: The term monolingual editing is sometimes used as a synonym for review. 2.2.8 proofread examine the revised target language content (2.3.3) and apply corrections before printing Clients often want revision but expect proofreading rates
[Edited at 2021-10-28 13:26 GMT] | | | Inez Ulrich Germany Local time: 04:24 Member (2016) English to German + ... TOPIC STARTER
Vladimir Pochinov wrote: Inez Ulrich wrote: Just another question, if I may: Lately, I noticed that a lot of agencies hire cheap translators and then expect the proofreader/editor to fix that mess, of course at the lower rate of proofreading. A clever way to save money, of course. For this reason, I always ask to see the translation beforehand and then discuss the rate necessary for the work involved. This is more -retranslation than editing, of course. You certainly charge way more for this kind of work, too, right? And how much more, if I may ask? For me, usually around € 0,08/word. Or do you consider this too cheap? It depends. You have your own rates. I rarely take on revision tasks involving translations by unknown translators. I am gradually switching to working for direct clients, and my primary offer to them is the TEP package. This means working in tandem with one of my trusted colleagues, taking turns as a translator and an editor. The final responsibility lies with the original translator, who can either accept or reject the changes proposed by the revised. Regarding your question about the pricing for revision, charge anywhere between your regular rate for revision and your regular rate for translation if the original "masterpiece" calls for a complete retranslation (just advise the client that you can only retranslate it from scratch because it is beyond salvage). As a separate note, you need to clarify what the client means by proofreading. ISO 17100 standard: ------------------------------- 2.2.4 post-edit edit and correct machine translation output (2.2.3) 2.2.5 check examination of target language content (2.3.3) carried out by the translator (2.4.4) 2.2.6 revision bilingual examination of target language content (2.3.3) against source language content (2.3.2) for its suitability for the agreed purpose Note 1 to entry: The term bilingual editing is sometimes used as a synonym for revision. 2.2.7 review monolingual examination of target language content (2.3.3) for its suitability for the agreed purpose Note 1 to entry: The term monolingual editing is sometimes used as a synonym for review. 2.2.8 proofread examine the revised target language content (2.3.3) and apply corrections before printing Clients often want revision but expect proofreading rates Thank you, Vladimir, you are confirming what I am already doing. I'm not working with direct clients, but only because I haven't found a good way of finding them and then getting in touch, also I do have a handful of trusted and loyal agencies who really respect my work and where I also have the last work on corrections done by one of their (also few and trusted) proofreaders. But such agencies are rare and hard to find. Yep, I know most clients want revision, but for a proofreading rate Thanks for the ISO, a good reminder! | | | Inez Ulrich Germany Local time: 04:24 Member (2016) English to German + ... TOPIC STARTER
Ice Scream wrote: Inez Ulrich wrote:What I actually meant was: what do you charge for hour for tasks like this? Of course, it can be done within minutes, or with a full report it might take hours. But what is your hourly rate? Or do you have a fixed rate per hour, no matter what task it is (translation, proofreading, editing)? Yes, one fixed rate. An hour of my time is an hour of my time. (That said... I do charge some clients a lower hourly rate because they wouldn't stomach my standard hourly rate, just as I charge some less per word. But I only take their work if I'm sitting there twiddling my thumbs or if it's something I really enjoy.) ... and sth I have thought about so often myself - an hour is an hour. I will also lower my rate a bit if it is a client I like and who cannot pay more or if it is sth interesting or fun. | | | Pages in topic: [1 2] > | To report site rules violations or get help, contact a site moderator: You can also contact site staff by submitting a support request » Quality assessment - how much do you charge? Trados Business Manager Lite | Create customer quotes and invoices from within Trados Studio
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