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will take precedence and shall prevail
wedge washers
Nov 13, 2012 12:40
11 yrs ago
English term

euroclearability

English to French Bus/Financial Finance (general)
Bonjour,

S'agit-il de la compensabilité en euro ?
Contexte : Russia's structural story is shifting (privatizations may lead to greater transparency and local debt market Euroclearability should support inflows)

Merci d'avance

Laurence Bourel
Proposed translations (French)
4 +1 compensabilité par Euroclear
5 +1 compatibilité transfonctionnelle intégrée en vue d'une simplification du processus de compensation
4 capacité de soutenir opérations de compensation par euro-obligations
1 eurocompensabilité

Discussion

Vitaliy Rysyuk Nov 16, 2012:
Hugues I mean that the debt market is not just instruments but a complex system where specifically debt instruments are involved. And in my suggestion, I refer to the ability of the debt market to serve as a platform for Euroclearing transactions.
HughDESS Nov 16, 2012:
Hi Vitaliy Thank you for your explanation. In my opinion, 'local debt market Euroclearability' literally means 'ability to Euroclear the local (russian) debt market', i.e. 'ability to use Euroclear (cf. Cyril's refs for definition of Euroclear tool) to clear debt from the local (russian) debt market'. So, I can't see what is wrong in both Cyril and my suggestions, and in fact, I can't see what distinction you are making between the debt market and 'specific instruments', sorry. Best, Hugues
Vitaliy Rysyuk Nov 16, 2012:
Hugues My point was that, even given such a 'newspak' word, the same cannot mean any of the features, as suggested by you and Cyril in French, in relation to the debt market, it would rather be associated with specific instruments.
HughDESS Nov 15, 2012:
PD 'Some of the constructions in Newspeak, such as "Euroclearability", are characteristic of agglutinative languages, although foreign to English.' (cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak°
HughDESS Nov 15, 2012:
Priviet Vitaliy,
Thank you for your post. Mine was tentatively humoristic ('Euroclearability' sounds a mockery, considering EUcratia's sovietic oppacity throughout). Best, Hugues
Vitaliy Rysyuk Nov 15, 2012:
Please consider when making your suggestions that the term pertains to the debt market. Can the market itself have such features as proposed by Hugues and Cyril?

Proposed translations

+1
6 mins
Selected

compensabilité par Euroclear

Je pense

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Note added at 8 mins (2012-11-13 12:49:15 GMT)
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Russia: Markets welcome Euroclear approval
"We expect Euroclearability to have a positive impact on the local market in that it will promote competitiveness and liquidity (...)
http://www.euromoney.com/Article/3112469/SubPage/9449/Channe...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euroclear

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Note added at 9 mins (2012-11-13 12:49:49 GMT)
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pas sûr de 'compensabilité'

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Note added at 17 mins (2012-11-13 12:57:57 GMT)
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Puisqu'on a pas l'équivalent choc en FR, je pense que tu peux tout simplement le faire sauter :
'(...) et l'engagement d'Euroclear sur le marché de la dette locale devrait...'

(1 seul ghit pour 'compensabilité euroclear', ce n'est pas engageant)

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Note added at 19 mins (2012-11-13 13:00:20 GMT)
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('s'engager' vient de là : http://www.agefi.fr/articles/euroclear-s-engage-en-russie-10...

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Note added at 22 mins (2012-11-13 13:03:27 GMT)
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...ou alors tu inventes 'euroclearabilité' et tu passes à la postérité :)
Peer comment(s):
agree HughDESS
17 mins
Merci Hugues
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Merci pour cette discussion enrichissante "
50 mins

capacité de soutenir opérations de compensation par euro-obligations

!
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2 days 19 hrs

eurocompensabilité

Tant qu'à faire, et pour poursuivre dans la logique de la dernière note de Cyril, qui me semble très judicieuse !
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+1
23 mins

compatibilité transfonctionnelle intégrée en vue d'une simplification du processus de compensation

intra-européen conformément à Bâle II et aux règles de rationalisation communautaire en vue d'un développement durable et de la lutte contre le réchauffement climatique

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Note added at 27 mins (2012-11-13 13:07:32 GMT)
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Russia's structural story is shifting (privatizations may lead to greater transparency and local debt market Euroclearability should support inflows)

Le contexte structurel russe évolue (les privatisation risquent d'entraîner une plus grande transparence et la possibilité de compenser le marché de la dette local via Euroclear devrait favoriser les entrées de capitaux)

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Note added at 3 days1 hr (2012-11-16 14:18:02 GMT)
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la possibilité d'utiliser Euroclear pour compenser des transactions financières domestiques (ou des échanges de titres locaux)
Reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

Peer comment(s):
agree Cyril B. : lol! :)
8 mins
Ah ah ah, merci pour le rendu, Cyril, mais je pense que c'est toi qui mérite les points, ne serait-ce que pour ta recherche
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